CIP-104: Create a new EVM-compatible space with Ethereum state at specific block number

#6

i got another question: what is eth in this ethereum fork? does 1 eth = 1 cfx? if yes, currently there is 120m eth in circulation, does this mean suddenly 120m cfx will be minted when ethereum fork born? or foundation will compensate for this? this will be important point, and great value add for ethereum pow marketing. not only we offer 3000 tps but ensure the coin already have value from start

#7

应该是状态全复制吧

#8

I won’t pretend to know all the aspects involved in this, but it sounds like this gives the world an alternative to Post-merge Ethereum with essentially the same operating performance as Conflux eSpace. Those being fast execution and very low execution costs.

At first it sounds overly optimistic that it will ever be adopted.
That being said it could be huge in a 2049 sense.

I do think that post-merge Ethereum has high regulatory risk from U.S. regulators. This space could enable a monumental change when those regulators cripple the U.S. regulated entities that drive the activity that keeps ETH so popular. At that point, this space could be where decentralized entities and regular users rebuild.

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#9

I would be great, but I have several questions:

  1. how many slots will there be on the Conflux blockchain? Because right now we have 2, adding one more is confusing users even more, I think this would be very important to take into account.
  2. With this proposal the amount of CFX will be reduced to the amount of ETH (1ETH=1CFX) total mined until the Merge?

The most important thing about this is to clarify how the proposal would actually look like. So that the community can better give their opinion.

#10

I think it look bad like CIP-102. The project is trying to lose its independence and become another stupid fork of the ether.
How many forks does ether have with a compatible EVM? More than a hundred! How many of them are at least somewhat known? Maybe 2-3.
Users supported the project because of its uniqueness, but someone wants to lose it.

And what will happen to coin holders? I have been holding the position since the start of mining! Just reduce my position running new emission? Or wipe your feet on the holders, as they did with PPI when the holder of positions worth tens of thousands of dollars (POS holders) received a PPI airdrop of 100 dollars? Or issue a new coin in a new environment and abandon the original space? You wrote “Backwards Compatibility - This change is spec breaking.”

I’m against

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#11

Do you want to attract users? Raise the price of the coin. It is down 95% from her peak. Involve market makers. Negotiate with early investors. Stop selling fund coins. A stable coin price will attract significantly more users than the next EVM compliant space.

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#12

以太坊状态复制会增加节点多少存储空间？将自己变成以太坊模样，真的还能保持“矿工友好”吗？
我的知识水平不能理解好处是什么，我怀疑的坏处可能并不会发生，只是真心希望团队不是在画蛇添足。

#14

The team of developers together with the communication team of conflux could do a live on youtube talking better about these proposals. Same model as the ethereum team lives. That would help get attention too.

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#15

:+1:

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#16

独乐乐不如众乐乐，反正转POS闹分㕚也是个娱乐事件，大家都来玩。挺好，蹭人家分叉的社区，到我们这个分支链上来玩儿，来的自己内卷着玩，总要个去处选择，cfx的core链卖点cfx过去当gas也不错。就当是个另类的棋牌博弈画面吧。。别太看好真当回事就是了。倒是基金会呀，还有啥的别太多的得利思维了。
这个cIP104就当个独立的空间尝试。不是大家很想做棋牌吗？我更直接地认为就当开个借题发挥的一个另类赌场。
另类赌场。鸡肋配酒，也能迷倒些人

#17

If the new EVM compatible space will make the project stronger after Ethereum Merge, of course yes.

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#18

:+1:

#19

:+1:

#20

:+1:

#21

Would be interesting to see if the NFTs forked could participate in gaming/metaverse with all the benefits of Conflux, making it an L2 in a way.

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#22

If the ETH ecosystem would be easily available / usable this would be the best Fork out there. Most other Forks are just about remaining in the current state while Conflux Blockchain has a lot more to offer (higher TPS / lower finality time / lower costs / …) than ETH.

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#23

If you have big support of ethash mining farms, do it but I doubt of it because there is so many forks already announced. I think the best thing is CIP 102 if you can keep the same TPS and treegraph with ethash or try to improve octopus that it is possible to mine with efficiency with GTX and AMD. If you do this improvement you will have more miners after the merge without asics farm, so you can keep your previous community, the decentralisation. For now it is totally impossible to mine with GTX and AMD, too much consumption for tiny hashrate. You have to think also that price of energy are exploding so to improve your mining community I think you should work on the consumption of the algorithm

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#24

以太转POS热闹些天
但是观察下来，似乎对市场没啥 热度
思考之下，
反而不太赞成这个102和104决定。。。。
更改算法意义不大，单独开个空间104设想得通过其它方式解决，
或者树图上的L2方式？实在吸引不来也不影响主调
动根基还是得慎重

#25

:+1::+1::+1:

#26

Nvidia 3XXX mining prity good octopus but u are right for AMD they not for this algoritham. It will be mistake if they fork, good chance CFX go to zero